If you read the statement released by Rangers to the Stock Exchange this evening, you might be mistaken for thinking that the Board won the case and the Rebels lost! Have a look at the statement below and especially the sections in bold.
Further to the announcement on 4 October 2013 regarding the petition filed in the Scottish Courts (the “Petition”) by Paul Murray, Malcolm Murray, Ian Cormack, John Graham and Colin Howell being shareholders representing 0.71 per cent of the voting rights of the Company (the “Petitioners”), the Company confirms that the Petition was called in the Scottish courts to be heard today, Monday 24 October, 2013 by Lord Tyre.
The Petitioners sought an interim order to require the Company to circulate notices received from the Petitioners pursuant to section 338 of the Companies Act 2006 (the “Notices”) to shareholders putting forward resolutions for the appointment of Malcolm Murray, Paul Murray, Scott Murdoch and Alex Wilson as directors of the Company. The Petitioners also sought an interim order to require the Company not to hold its Annual General Meeting (“AGM”) until such time as the Notices have been circulated to shareholders.
The court has ruled that the AGM convened by the Company to be held on 24 October 2013 should not go ahead on this date in order for there to be sufficient time for the shareholder resolutions as proposed by the Petitioners in the form of the Notices to be circulated and considered by the shareholders of the Company.
The Petitioners’ submission and argument that the Company should simply have accepted the signed Notices at face value without any further enquiry was rejected by Lord Tyre.
The Board of Directors of the Company received clear and firm advice from its solicitors and senior and junior counsel that on the face of documents provided by the Petitioners the Notices had not been signed in a manner that was authorised and as a result the Directors were obliged to seek further clarification from those shareholders. Every effort was made to engage with the Petitioners on these issues however the Petitioners chose to resolve the matter in court. In Lord Tyre’s opinion, these irregularities did not invalidate the Notices.
Lord Tyre said that it was appropriate to refrain from circulating the signed Notices if there were reasons to justify this. Lord Tyre ruled that the categories of reason for not sending out resolutions were strictly limited and did not include cases where requests appeared not to have been signed by shareholders in a manner that was not authorised by corporate shareholders’ own rules.
Steps will now be taken by the Company to fix an alternative date for the AGM as soon as possible and for the business to be considered at the AGM to include the resolutions proposed in the Notices.
We will ignore the reference to Monday 24th October!
Let’s break that down. I have summarised some of what the statement says in quotes, with my thoughts on each part below.
“The judge rejected the Rebels’ argument that the Resolution should have been accepted” – but clearly he did not decide that the Resolution was invalid – if so, he would not have granted the interim interdict!
“The Board got clear advice from (a) its solicitors (b) junior counsel and (c) its QC that, on the face of it the Resolution might not have been validly signed” – and I am sure that the Rebels had equally strong advice that their Resolution was valid. Does that part of the statement look like an attempt to blame the lawyers? It seems that way to me!
“The Directors had no choice but to make these enquiries” – mmm. Would the Board have been criticised by other shareholders for putting the Resolution on the agenda? I suspect not. In any event, once the Resolution was on the agenda, it would have been difficult to remove it. The Directors could have accepted the Resolution. They chose not to do so in an effort to protect their own position.
“We tried to sort this out but those nasty Petitioners ignored us and went to court” – maybe because they were accused by the CEO of lodging an unauthenticated Resolution which was frivolous, vexatious and ineffective? Maybe because they were told that they were too late because the papers had “gone to the printers”?
“The judge ignored the irregularities” – at this stage of the case they were simply alleged irregularities and clearly not irregular enough for Lord Tyre to agree with the action taken by the Board!
“Lord Tyre decided to let the Rebels away with paperwork which was not in order, so how can we deal with that?” – I was not in court to hear the judge’s decision, but somehow I suspect that the above is called putting a gloss on what was decided.
The bottom line? The Rebels have won this battle – the PLC has been ordered to pay the expenses of the contested court application – the AGM is off and the Rebels will have their candidates up for a vote at the new meeting.
And the efforts by the Board to justify its position become ever more transparent and feeble.
Posted by Paul McConville
We don’t have Rebels at Ibrox,not in our vocabulary!
rabbles then
@Cam
You don’t have Rangers at Ibrox either!
He shoots, he scores.
Nice one cam, very amusing. (smiley face thing).
No rebels, but eejits aplenty!
a few knowledgeable RHEBLES, thats all it would have took to fight to save the dead co,
yes men with no back bone, willing or able to stand up to the Master of the big hoose led to the downfall part I,
now they scrabble about inviting in convicted tax dodgers from near and far to come to the rescue,
No rebels,but what a bunch of crooks,conmen and liars! just like SDM! and Charlie Green! for a club hardly 15 month old! what a collection! £15million spent! they make wee Craigy White look like somebody who robs gas meters!
You obviously don’t browse your ‘own fan’ forums. Murray and Co are referred to as rebels by all and sundry within your own ranks.
So, the debate begins again…searing incompetence from the board…or part of a Jack Irvine master plan to…whatever Jack Irvine is up to??? I know they won’t, but Rangers fans really should push to tear this club/company/clumpany up & start again. What a mess…
James of Airdrie, £200k per annum, head of media and communications and no one is allowed to contact him,
why have a James, if all your going to do is Jack off the public
Love the fact that they clearly overlook the award for costs against them, normally in reasonable circumstances an indication of a successful outcome for the party awarded the costs.
The time wasting issues around initially the EGM request and process and this AGM are now put to bed, lets get on with the real show and more laughs…….ducky the rfc are all quackers….
Cam, maybe you call them insurgents or SDM or CW or CG, they are cetainly not TIMS !
Death, by your own sword, the ultimate sacrific !!
@Alex
So right mate, “Victims of their own missfortune”
The brief for the petitioners also made a few statements; such as, “The whole board lied” and that “justice should visit upon them”.
I for one hope that this happens, these people chose to decieve and attempt to cheat other shareholders in an attempt to save their own skin.
I also think that the AIM have to have a real good look at this, they may in the end ‘suspend their trading position’ apt also; putting them on the path to destruction this board deserves.
To P McConville,
great blog, we’ll spotted; no dignity and brave call the other day with your blog when you said this would be called on the signatures, proved correct.
So what is New ? Officer, it was SDM not me, officer !!
FFS Paul
We are all waiting on tenterhooks to find out what happened in the cases vs P McConville & Co.
And here you come out with the same old crap.
Some people might think this is about deflection and whataboutery.
When can we expect a blog on the antics of the Sellik Rebels asking for Big Liewell’s head on a plate.
Or can we expect something on the plight of your favoured club Albion Rovers.
I am sure Rab Watt would welcome the publicity and any welcome fundraising resulting from it.
Maybe the miner’s fund could contribute.
Or have they already given more than their fair share.
Merr bigoted pish but why should anyone be surprised.
Not Proven, Zombie
Let he has not sinned, throw the first stone, did it hurt non tax payer
@Clarkeng
You are struggling now aren’t you?
I’m a generous guy, if I put a flake in your bowl,will you cheer up?
It’s only a game!
Sweetheart pass me the deady bear bowl for Clarkeng!
@monti I used to think the Carson Cooler thingy and old rearpipe were as low as it was possible to go but barkeng takes the biscuit.As trolls go he is just out to offend he is not clever never funny and not worth responding to. If nobody responds to it not even with a thumbs down it will get bored and bugger off back where it lurks.With all the great comedic material provided by our friends at Ibrox don’t let a bitter little troll distract us from our mission MOCKING SEVCO.Make the most of it as it may not be around for much longer.
Now now Hector.
You really must spend more time comforting the wee deers.
You’ll be happy and they will love you the more for it.
Just remember there is always a welcome in the hills.
Dork
Dork ?, it was a DUCK,
@hector
AGREED!
Montgomery old chap dont go through your life showing yourself up as narrow minded bigot supporting a team with a board who just look after their own self interest.
You were warned about Big Liewell from the start.
It is all about the money with him……..the common fan ( and lets face it most of you are ) means nothing.
Given the cabal now in place you aint gettin rid of him anyway.
It is out of your hands despite the utterances of the manky mhob on here.
And you will just need to accept that “sack the board” has no place at your gaffe anymore.
It is fronted by tax dodgers who have signed everything over to the Coop and the Clydesdale.
At least we definitely know who owns your title deeds……and it is not ra Sellik.
Anyway looking forward to the clean up by Ajax …. germs dealt with….get your money on a granny this year.
@Clarkeng
Oh dear, before you went on the missing list you got involved in sensible debate, and were even, dare I say it, polite with it.
Now I come back after my own wee sabbatical & find the bile & vituperation in full flow again.
Ah well, plus ça change I suppose.
Monti
@OD
😀
I’ll tell you why , because this site is about slagging off the Glasgow ringers , the ones that switched the plates ,there is no debate ,your club is rotten to the core infact the boil is suppurating as we speak , so look within ,instead of admitting the whole affair is an affront to scottish football ,you and your kabal on here Are trying to justify the indefensible ,
Kerry
Aboot that car…………….
The one with several owners in as many years , but the big question is where’s the log book ,,, and who’s names on it
CW
@Kerry
Pants on or pants off.
Or is that a silly question?
Get your own pants ,,, sorry patter
you need to up your methadone, it’s no killing yer pain ,is it
Ha Ha Ha a ha
FFS Clarkeng!
If you had any real loyalty for your club you would be praising the likes of Paul McConville for exposing the deceit and incompetence that is putting the club’s very existence at risk yet again. You are wilfully blind to anything that is remotely critical of the people in charge of your club simply because they’re in charge. Have you not learned anything from your club’s recent history? Has it crossed your mind that the petitioners in this case might actually have the best interests of Rangers at heart? If they win the day will they then attract your unwavering support simply because they are then part of the Rangers elite? You would be doing your club a great service by being half as critical of the people running it as you are of the people on this blog. Try applying a bit of reasoned thinking rather than a blind follow follow attitude.
you really are wasting your time my friend, they don`t/won`t listen, it`s all a conspiracy etc nowt to do wae them, it`s everyone elses fault!
Got to say as a Gers fan I cannot disagree with a single word of that pal!
…….directed at Brian J btw!
@BHA1
Well said there!
One Question though, do you agree your club is a NEW club, with one trophy to it’s name…the Scottish third division championship?
cam
there is only one word in your vocabulary and
that is cheating HAIL HAIL
It really is time to stop all the shit, RFC do not exist any more, that fact is not new on here, we know, are we all just obsessed TIMS ? TAIGS ? FIENENS ?, yes probably, but we are alive, not dead
People, do not want the Truth, and in my opinion ( only mine ) an Indepentdant Scotland cannot deliver the Truth, Catholics will still be second Class to the Establishment, just like now in the UK..
Pick that out yer net bhoys.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/24434317
It’s all about the famous Glasgow Rangers you just can’t get enough of trying to catch up with us.
Celtic, forever 2nd class 🙂
@Cam
You also are struggling, just because you repeat something over & over doesn’t mean it makes sense!
Your club is dead, Jim White said so, live on Sky.
Rangers (IL) died chasing Celtic & the tribute act is going to do the same, how many goes do they want??? 🙂
To help the “original” Rangers!
Steven Naismith!
Dodo, all over, finito, the end!
The plug has been ripped out the socket Cam!
Pip pip tally ho…….
All the King’s horses…and all the King’s men…
Are coming to skelp Celtic…
All over again.
54 ..and coming for more.
I can smell your fear Montz.
… heh heh.
WATP.
We Are Truly Pathetic
Who Are They People?
We Accept Third Prizes
Walter And The Patsies
We Admit To Poverty
What A Total Palaver
Sweet goal Cam.
I bet you don’t see too many like that in the diddy league.
In European football that would be dangerous play though – sorry Cam, that wasn’t an attempt to rub your bluenoses in it. Sorry!
Doing the Sammi…Sevco always playing catch up!….I’ll congratulate him when he does it against one of the teams in the top teir not some wee diddy part time team…fanny!
They are the people.
They were
@Kerry they thought they were.
@Kerrygirl
They are no longer!
Celtic, forever 2nd class???
If I could be bothered linking Steve Chalmers and Tam winning the European Cup for Scotland’s most successful club I would but i’ll let you enjoy your glory.
Hail x2
After todays ruling by Lord Tyre, a few folk might be keeping a low profile and treading carefully.
Dave King’s bid to get out of the blocks quickly has been stalled and he is burning rubber whilst keeping his engine ticking over.
The news that successful businessmen want to invest in Rangers left quite a few skidmarks in the Y fronts of the Celtic bhoys.
This is just a pit stop for the Gers and we’ll soon be in top gear and lapping the GCC works van bhoys.
@Cam
……Yet you are deflated somewhat!
you are going to fall from a great height cam, then you will be like, something stuck to the bottom a Celtic fans shoe, you have become more wiser since you have came on here, and have discovered loads regarding your team, with the knowledge that we posses and what we have gained from catholic eduction and attending schools
days as you are aware we have the ability to teach you new tricks every day, and as i see it your tribe, will find it as hard to catch us up in football terms or in thought.
Well that didn’t read too well.I assume your title is an hereditary one.
Hark at you cam, “an hereditary”. Self consciously displaying your erudition there.
@Cam
Do you want your ‘ba back?
Say please!
You really are a typical anachronistic 1690 buffoon with the IQ of a Bigot Bowl photo fit on Crimewatch. I blame your inferior schooling. PS Craig Whyte still owns a legal interest in Rangers (deceased June 14 2012), as does BDO. The club you are currently watching at Die Brox is a start-up. I’m sorry for your loss. I feel your pain. S’amuser
@Rufus
“Bowl”?
Yes please, more jelly and ice cream.
@Cam
“Title is an hereditary one”?
Title of CHAMPIONS isn’t hereditary Cam, Annually would be more apt!
Couldn’t care less , the truth will out
@Kerry
I have been saying the very same thing.
Liewell and his plan will be exposed for all to see.
Are you wearing your mothers pants to the van
Spit it out what do celtic have to hide ,,,,, if there were any skeletons in the celtic cupboard the papers would be all over it, those boys would be like a tramp in a skip, or clarkeng in to his mothers pants
Dave has 30 days to pay his fine of £44m. Not a bad result for the boy given that the SARS was demanding £230m in tax. Mind you, he is now a convicted criminal with the following official “commendations” on his record:-
Judge Brian Southwood; “…..he is a mendacious witness whose evidence should not be accepted on any issue unless it is support by documents and other objective evidence”.
“It was remarkable that King showed no sign of embarrassment or any emotion when he conceded that he had lied to the (Sars) commissioner in a number of his income tax returns. In our assessment, he is a glib and shameless liar.”
South Africa can keep trash like King.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/cantillon-all-sides-seek-a-say-as-mobile-phone-licence-row-heads-for-trial-1.1513811
You’ve got me Cam. What’s that got to do with Dave King? Or was Declan at the GCC involved in that?
We did it – another demonstration of the power of the citizen blogger. We headed off King at the pass – me and the loonball possy. I feel so empowered Cam – I am cleaning up Sevco for the benefit of Scotland. Isn’t t’internet a wonderful creation?
Yes Ted,with the click of my mouse i can discover the Irish method of high finance and securing deals.Oi tink it’s a genetic trait the old back scratching.
The bhoys brought it over to the GCC and have honed it to perfection.
Smells bad though.
Now den who is the fella in charge of contract tenders? oh to be sure its our Liam from Kerry,a broth of a bhoy.
Get tae work
@ cam
These would be the same successful business men that sat on the board of original Rangers (RIP) during the S(sic)DM EBT years?
Your earlier comment was mildly amusing. This one is hilarious!.
Keep the jokes coming.
You may be right Cam but it does beg the question as to why such an astute business man would plough tens of millions into a club rather than simply let it liquidate and buy up all the assets for a pittance. Of course it might be that he’s a Rangers man…. Like the great Craig Whyte was touted to be when he first arrived on the scene. The main difference of course is that Dave King probably does have the requisite business acumen and the personal fortune to back it. Why though would he want to give his money to those in charge at present. They couldn’t lace his boots in terms of business acumen and they have proven themselves to be entirely self serving and likely to seek to line their own pockets with his money. Liquidation number two provides him with a much cheaper option and he comes in with complete control of his money and of the club he loves. Simples!
Today, the rebels won, but it is a long fight, onwards and upwards we aspire, admitt our sins, and scottish football will previal, CFC will do all it can to help,, BUT WHY SOULD WE ?? PL, get a pair, turncoat supreme !
Celtic, we are as guilty as SEVCO, DD & PL go now, if you have the courage
We allowed SEVCO to happen, FFS!
UEFA RULES ? not in Glasgow, pardon ? PL is Guilty, we let Zombies breath, FFS
Gaun yerself Alex,get it all out,put it in one big breathless paragraph and gies a swatch into the inner workings of an internet loonball.
I have a feeling that you could be competition for mick.
Dear Cammot, I just try to be, ME, lets see how things go, I cammot believe that the dead can speak, but PL may be able to speak for the dead, shame on him !
@Alex
Calm down Alex, God works in mysterious ways, patience my friend!
They only exist because we say they they do, DOH as Homer would say
we are not bothered about who won, we made the case only to tell the rangers fans what we thought was happening to there team, and i believe they where slow on the up take, and they will find it hard to hold it all together if they cant have or get a wining team on the park .
There is no other issue for a Celtic fan other than banter as they say. I know a few rangers fans, and i have been in there homes, where holes in the doors and walls are a common place, maybe they will get some rest bite from it one day, but i think that could take 4 years min, will they keep the heed, I don’t think they can. as you can pick up the vibes from CAM on here things are not as rosy as cam would have you think.
I can understand Alex’s anger at PL. Without PL there would be no zombie club in existence and Scotland’s air would be purer for decent people to breathe.
Are you saying the tribute act only exists because of big Peter,
PL gives a wee nod of the head and the newco comedy show has been allowed to roll on for a extra two years, burning £60m and dragging up every tax dodger that’s a true blue and having a public spotlight shine on them,
is PL’s plan, no quick painless death, drag it out, for as long as possible
is PL master plan to let then scrape their way back to the top table for the biggest ever humping dished out by Scotland ONLY footballing super power
While watching the psychiatrist explaining to The Iceman why he was the way he was, I started to see a familiar pattern, and no I do not think all Celtic fans or Irish Catholics are bi-polar paranoid sociopaths.
Richard was subjected to continuous abuse from his parents throughout his youth, this is when a young mind is developing psychological traits to survive.. A great number of Celtic fans suffered societal abuse in their youth, the daddy of them all being Rangers and their bigoted fans. In effect Rangers is the abusive father for a lot of Celtic fans, and society the mother that rejected them. When you remove an emotion like love from the human mind, it must be replaced by another emotion in order to function, usually this emotion is hate, and the mind hates a society that rejects it.
Ergo the strong attachment to another mother country and culture, one where there was no anti-Irish Catholic ethos.
Now it is not uncommon for the abused to turn the tables on the abuser given the opportunity, the abused becomes the abuser. Richard overreacted to criticism, he disliked intensely being judged, a natural response because it reminded him of his abuse, the abuser always adjudges his abuse to be legitimate. Some Celtic fans cannot help abusing Rangers and their fans, their minds have been affected by deep memories of being rejected, abused and of being of lesser value. This is why the ” values ” aspect of the abuse is so sweet against Rangers , it attacks the very justification for them being abused, and destroys any inferior tag.
The mind of an abused and rejected victim is predisposed to paranoia, it distrusts more than trusts, and this mind is capable of false perceptions, it can believe the abuse still exists.
Richard also had a problem, he had inherited some bad genes from his parents, and Celtic fans can inherit some bad memories from their parents, the effect is the same.
In summary, if I was a 56 year old Irish Catholic living in the west coast, I would find it impossible to suppress 30 years of memories of abuse and rejection, and I probably would be just as enthusiastic as you to hammer Rangers out of pent up hate. If I lived in an area where religion is still an issue then I would still perceive an anti Irish Catholic ethos and a societal bias.
So does this explain why I see an image of myself dancing to fiddle-dee-dee music on a grave, with a headstone that has “Rangers-Deid-LOL!” engraved on it, every time I see or hear the word ‘Sevco’?
Phew!!!
The condition is known as anti-social paranoia, sociopathy is actually just fearlessness,the warrior gene is more prevalent in Scotland and Ireland, part of our evolutionary baggage, compassionate men did not last long in battle, and we battled a lot. A tiny piece of Neanderthal is a lot of testosterone, and they fled North to be assimilated into Northern tribes.
So you have a man in his 50s with the warrior gene, whose mind has been conditioned by 30 years of societal abuse and rejection but he suppresses it.
And then the very symbol of his abuse and rejections falls over in front of his feet, does he step over or does 56 years of pent up rage want to bayonet him.
It is understandable, hopefully by the time Rangers get back into the SPL, you lot will have had your fill and will have burnt off the hate.
“hey diddly deee, ho, diddly diddly dee!!”
Sorry could you repeat that Steerpike, I was miles away!
Young Niall, what ever happened to him, what makes him as middle aged man,that has to go to his old and sick mothers care home to steal her dinner,
what ever happened to young Niall, for him to do this as a frustrated middle aged man, how disturbed are you as a person,to do this,
did young Niall inherit some bad genes from his parents, or did he inherit some bad memories from their parents,
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can someone tell me how you can inherit another persons memories, is that possible ? or is it just psycobabble from a psychotic failed troll,
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Poor wee troll, he lost his case on here just the same way Sevco spivs lost today, but the board and the troll have this over riding trait in common,both are incapable of a wee bit of honesty,
Niall if your out there reading this, try , just try one time, go buy your own dinner, a fish supper, or a Chinese take away, a sort of Wok away,
when you’ve paid for it,i repeat, when you’ve paid for it, just remember, this time you don’t have to stick it down your trouser.
” can someone tell me how you can inherit another persons memories, is that possible ? or is it just psycobabble from a psychotic failed troll,”
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in·her·it (n-hrt)
1.
a. To receive (property or a title, for example) from an ancestor by legal succession or will.
b. To receive by bequest or as a legacy.
2. To receive or take over from a predecessor: The new administration inherited the economic problems of the last four years.
3. Biology To receive (a characteristic) from one’s parents by genetic transmission.
Inherit has more than one meaning, we inherit our parents genes(3), and we inherit our parents memories(1 or 2).
Could you provide the source for that,
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/inherit?q=inherit
No Niall your original source, that is nowhere near to what you posted, give me the source that mentions inherited memory
failed troll making silly claims, on unproven psycobabble theories
@coatbrig,
The definitions are the same in all dictionaries, why are you persisting?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inherit
” give me the source that mentions inherited memory”
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What is wrong with you?
Inherited can mean to receive from a predecessor, inheriting ones parents memories is to receive ones parents memories.
I beg you to stop, I am cringing for you.
Beautifully and convincingly, Harris showed that our parents play a far smaller role in determining how we are than we could ever imagine—and that what really … “Ms. Harris takes to bits the assumption which has dominated developmental ….. inherit behavioral quirks and personality characteristics from their parents,.
I noticed the word ASSUMPTION did you ?
“I noticed the word ASSUMPTION did you ?”
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I haven’t a clue what you are talking about sorry, the various meanings of the word ” inherit ” are universally documented.
Niall Walker
October 14, 2013 at 11:11 pm
@coatbrig,
The definitions are the same in all dictionaries, why are you persisting?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inherit
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Biology To receive (a characteristic) from one’s parents by genetic transmission.
/ˌkariktəˈristik/
Adjective
Typical of a particular person, place, or thing.
Noun
A feature or quality belonging typically to a person, place, or thing and serving to identify it.
Synonyms
adjective. typical – distinctive – peculiar – specific
noun. feature – trait – character – attribute – property
NO mention of MEMORY, not your own, never mind your sick old mum’s
TROLL FAIL
still no mention of inheriting any ones memory
@coatbrig,
met·a·phor
/ˈmetəˌfôr/
Noun
A figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract.
Re: [diacritice] Re: solicit ajutor pentru “Inherit recipients …
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/diacritice/cSPjRop9ax8/…
8 Dec 2006 – To receive (property or a title, for example) from an ancestor by legal succession or will. b. To receive by bequest or as a legacy. 2. To receive or take over from a predecessor: The new administration inherited the economic problems of the last four years. 3. Biology To receive (a characteristic) from one’s …
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thats your original source, hardly universal
i asked you to name your source, you would not post the above as your source ,yet thats where you copy and paste came from,
you INSTEAD posted this as your source
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/inherit?q=inherit
just where does Oxford dictionaries mention inherited memories ?
is it because you remember eating your mothers dinner that you believe this UNPROVEN theory
@coatbrig,
The meaning of inherited is not the one you suppose, I have tried to point this out gently to you for some time, I am not suggesting anyone can biologically inherit the memories of their parents.
tell me oh great mind reader, what is the one that i suppose,
i just asked, can people inherit their parents memories as you claimed/stated on a post, or is it just psycobabble from you,
you have yet to post one credible source that backs up your claim,
my supposition that it’s just psycobabble has not been refuted has it?
go on post us a source, that tells us about inheriting memories,
it’s the same as buying someone’s history is it not ?
it’s looking like yet another TROLL FAIL from you.
major blunt force trauma?
only when i read the bigoted shyte you try to pass of as humour.
Who is Major Bluntforce-Trauma?
Not another fecking tasteless military shindig at Ibrox is it?
How often do these boys have to be slapped down before they get the message.
Correct me if I’m wrong Cam, but you think Dave King is Fit & Proper because every rich businessman in the world is corrupt. Jeez, what a very cynical outlook. You need look no further than Mr Dermot Desmond to disprove that theory – no criminal record there; the man is pure as the driven snow – a significant charity benefactor too, just like my personal hero Sir William Haughey. King is crooked, these two are clever – there is a difference. Don’t go back to your old refrain about Declan at the GCC/ Dáil Éireann!
I thought there would be a new approach this morning.Paul must be waiting for Ally to say something.
This is like watching a baboon colony.Sentries look out for threats to the colony and the alpha male organises the defence.
I now have visions of all of you rushing around in groups whenever a new spectator walks past your enclosure.
I wonder if Willie knew Charlie Haughey,Dermott certainly did.Charlie was a proper character,he probably wouldn’t have liked this new politically correct new age.
Big Den splashed a few charity bucks in Haiti and when the Daily Mail queried the motivation, he took his usual approach and engulfed them in lawyers.
I don’t think we’ll be hearing much from wee Stevie Purcell,the poor boy is recovering and it’s best that he just lets that period of his life stay in the past.
You hold tight to the very slim margins Ted,i sense it helps to get you through the night.
We see you Ted,we see you.
The major in question has been court martialled it appears.We are now in a new era of Random Insanity and the colour of the snowballs is being rigorously checked.I do hope that this isn’t a unilateral policy.
Inherited can mean to receive from a predecessor, inheriting ones parents memories is to receive ones parents memories.
care to back that up with a bit of proof, 5 or 6 times now you’ve tried and failed to post any universally accepted link to YOUR claim that humans inherit their parents memories.
2 or 3 links to dictionaries, yet none of them back up your claim.
how many people on here can remember one thing your parents did before you were born,
TROLL failure, yet again, just because YOU say it does not make it true,
‘coatbrig,
Just admit you picked me up wrong, and now you are trying to disguise your error.
what part of your claim, “Celtic fans can inherit some bad memories from their parents”, is it YOUR telling ME i misunderstood,
you went on to post 3 or 4 links that failed to back up your claim,
you then started to babble about biological inheritance to try to deflect,
I asked, can people as you claim, inherit their parents memories,
so far all i have back from you is waffle and pish
@coatbrig,
Which part of metaphor do you not understand?
@Niall
Or you could live in Methil & conclude, things really can be worse than what is happening to second rangers!
Niall, there is no point in defending the indefensible, just put your hands in the air, like you don’t care & watch all the Tims as we stop to look & stare 🙂
Word up!
If you go down to court today
Your in for a big surprise
If you go down to court today
Your in for a big surprise.
It’s comedy gold, they won’t be told
The King’s return been put on hold
it’s heads in the sand at comedy gold Ibrox!
You have the X factor
As in bollux.That was poor,bedtime for Tich.
Poor bhoy seems to have major probs with his your and you’re’s.
I blame the borstals.
Cam
If you’re going to have a go at Monti over his grammar, could you do it without the apostrophe abuse, thank you.
@Cheap suit Charlie
wHA’ts WRoNG wiTH my! gR’aMmiR …LIke”?
😉
Well that was a lovely wee donner hogie salad and sauce and i see that the learning difficulties team are in da house.
Another bit of progress was made today.
I realise that is not the news that you terrified bhoys like to hear but i know you preferred the talk to be about Chico,Imran,Craigie,Ticketus,no accounts,Charlotte and bust by Xmas.
Now we’re talking about Dave and Paul and Jim,no room for Dozy,certainly no Micks and let’s leave Monti’s wee boaby out of things.
April is when we go bust now,but hang on Dave might help out and if Jim McColl sees a clear spiv free route he might pitch in.
So we have slow but steady progress.All our business is transparent and if there’s a Co-op mortgage hiding in there then spanglebhoy@easterrising16 will unearth it and present it to the cyberbams.
The future is brighter,it’s almost Belisha like.
Well like Celtic ,this isn’t box office.
The Girl who Bladdered the Hornets Nest beats this hands down.
@cam,
Am I missing something? Why does this chap not accept there are other meanings of the word inherit? Why does he assume I meant biological when I was contrasting it against the biological?
Niall Walker
October 14, 2013 at 11:11 pm
@coatbrig,
The definitions are the same in all dictionaries, why are you persisting?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inherit
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that’s your link, i clicked on it and i read it, here it isin·her·it (n-hrt)
1.
a. To receive (property or a title, for example) from an ancestor by legal succession or will.
b. To receive by bequest or as a legacy.
2. To receive or take over from a predecessor: The new administration inherited the economic problems of the last four years.
3. Biology To receive (a characteristic) from one’s parents by genetic transmission.
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Inherit has more than one meaning, we inherit our parents genes(3), and we inherit our parents memories(1 or 2).
from your post
he had inherited some bad genes from his parents, and Celtic fans can inherit some bad memories from their parents, the effect is the same.
i asked can we inherit our parents memories ?
your now saying….
I am not suggesting anyone can biologically inherit the memories of their parents.
your the one that has introduced the word biological to try to deflect,
so please tell us Celtic fans, how do we inherit our parents memories ?
please provide any proof you have to back up your claim, hurry up you’ve deflected long enough, one link to a credible source that backs your claim up will do
I see what you’re both trying to say although why you’re both arguing over it is beyond me. 🙂
They might be town-reared dogs, but the
instinctive fear of the Wild was theirs just the same. Not alone with
their own eyes did they see the wolfish creature in the clear light of
day, standing before them. They saw him with the eyes of their
ancestors, and by their inherited memory they knew White Fang for
the wolf, and they remembered the ancient feud.
if mather and co are smart, they should call in all the loans and make a fuss at the footballers and ex directors that don’t give to the cause they have about 3 weeks to stir the pot, and starting off with getting walter
to go around with the bucket.
in an old bazaar in zanzibar sits a very happy man tonight !!!!………………..
Niall Walker
October 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm
” give me the source that mentions inherited memory”
—————————————————————————————
What is wrong with you?
Inherited can mean to receive from a predecessor, inheriting ones parents memories is to receive ones parents memories.
I beg you to stop, I am cringing for you
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Niall Walker
October 14, 2013 at 11:21 pm
@coatbrig,
The meaning of inherited is not the one you suppose, I have tried to point this out gently to you for some time, I am not suggesting anyone can biologically inherit the memories of their parents.
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Niall Walker
October 14, 2013 at 11:43 pm
@coatbrig,
met·a·phor
/ˈmetəˌfôr/
Noun
A figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract.
what were you suggesting at 11.16pm
is it consistent with what you were saying at 11.21
even more so 11.43,
it is now all metaphorical, so what you stated at 11.16 was metaphorical,
so why not just say that when i asked, “can people inherit their parents memories, or is it psycobabble”,
you posted how many links to try to prove that you could,
now it’s all metaphorical,
thats just another way of saying psycobabble,eh
@coatbrig,
There is only one person on here babbling and metaphorical has nothing to do with psychobabble.
@Niall Walker, failed Troll
you post this
Richard also had a problem, he had inherited some bad genes from his parents, and Celtic fans can inherit some bad memories from their parents, the effect is the same.
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I respond by asking ,”is it possible for someone to inherit their parents memories or is it just psycobabble”
NW posts this in reply
in·her·it (n-hrt)
1.
a. To receive (property or a title, for example) from an ancestor by legal succession or will.
b. To receive by bequest or as a legacy.
2. To receive or take over from a predecessor: The new administration inherited the economic problems of the last four years.
3. Biology To receive (a characteristic) from one’s parents by genetic transmission.
(NW adds this bit )
Inherit has more than one meaning, we inherit our parents genes(3), and we inherit our parents memories(1 or 2).
you want me to believe that 1) and 2) above show that people inherit there parents memories, Troll Fail
i ask NW to post proof that proves that people in fact do as he claims,
he then starts in on the personal insults,
he introduces biology, telling me that’s were i am getting it wrong,
i had never mentioned biology, i just asked him tp prove his claim, by this time he had posted two links to two different dictionaries, none of the two links mentioned the ability of a human to inherit his/her parents memories,
more insults followed,
then he tells me it’s all metaphorical,
why ,when i asked ,can people inherit their parents memories did the TROLL just not then say his claim was metaphorical,
so when NW stated…..
“Celtic fans can inherit some bad memories from their parents”
he was only stating an INTANGIBLE IDEA,
would telling me, it was all metaphorical, have let me know his original post was just one more of his flights of fancy to try to prove his anti Irish catholic victim paranoia agenda ?
so speaking metaphorically about inherited memory from your parents and how it impacts on Celtic fans, is only NW expressing an intangible idea,
so in the context of NW’s post, it’s all psycobabble,
just NW trying a new way to introduce his anti Irish catholic speal
as he claimed ,THE EFFECTS ARE THE SAME, The same as inheriting your “bad” DNA from your parents, but it’s nothing to do with biology.
SO Niall,when you added this to the dictionary definition…..
“Inherit has more than one meaning, we inherit our parents genes(3), and we inherit our parents memories(1 or 2).”
that was you speaking metaphorically was it ?
@coatbrig,
I quoted a metaphor, you asked how could one inherit memories, I supplied you two different dictionary definitions to prove the metaphor was apt, I even gave you the meaning of a metaphor to assist you further.
In summary I tried a step by step process to educate you, and you persist in making a complete fool of yourself.
You assumed a literal meaning to an obvious metaphor in a failed attempt to be clever,, but it wasn’t clever. Anyone can make a mistake, your problem is you are unable to accept you have a poor understanding of the English language, and an English critic with no knowledge of English is a masochist.
Have a nice day.
the question was
can people inherit their parents memories. or is that just Psycobabble
this has been your defence
1) people DO inherit their parents memories,
I asked for proof, you failed to provide it
2)oh wait, they don’t do it biologically they do it in another way, why don’t you understand that there are different ways to inherit something. here’s two links to prove i am right
the two links did not prove anything.
3) oh wait another wee minute, i was speaking metaphorically
speaking metaphorically ( expressing an intangible idea)on the workings of the brain……Psycobabble
PS
Please,give me the source of the metaphor you quoted
Whoever brings ruin on their family will inherit only wind, and the fool will be servant to the wise.
Proverbs 11:29
Proverbs 15:20
A wise son makes a glad father, but a foolish man despises his mother.
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Morality 101
verily, the truly wicked son that despises his mother steals the bread from her mouth
The spiritual zombie home :- IOUbrox.
sevco
Doner hogie…..ffs whatever that is.
The Thurso FUD seems to be as classless in his eating habits as his dead team were in social skills and responsibilities.
Where do people like this come from…..seriously?
@martybhoy
It’s a reservation called Armadale!
Ah’ve goat in a bit late and been entertaining ma sel on the blog, started well the night, went doon hill a bit, picked up a bit an went doon hill again. The missus was peekin oar ma shoulter murmuring summit aboot “repetition being a cynical substitute for veracity” but she’s foreign like.
Laurel and Hardy losing their case wuznae such a bad thing. Just one more painful step on the road we huf tae go doon.
CAM is this the same mob that have shares in Rangers
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a0a64a56-31e8-11e3-a16d-00144feab7de.html#axzz2hkeSuZ73
Based on what we have been told about The Rangers finances and if we take it at face value then with a monthly 1,000,000 pound loss they will run out of funds February 2014, the costs of another AGM and extra directors fees makes this mid January now. However the spivs have to get funds out before the balance hits zero so may accelerate spivvery. If you are a supplier to Ibrokes I would advice you to ask for cash up front for supplies from now on. You would be an unsecured creditor if you wait till the 20th of next month.
@Fisiani Valentine’s day maybe, ah the romance..!!!
@Cam
Rumblings afoot on here eh?
Big Liewell must go??
But but……..”I thought they loved my for my sound business model!!!”.
“Look we are only losing £22m now!!”.
“We can get it all back because of the stitch up…..I mean plan….”.
Boardroom battles ahead…Allison will have to try to protect his man from the bigoted hordes.
Big Des will be shitting bricks in case they ask him for more money.
How will he explain the stash in Gibraltar?
I mean Gibraltar FFS wis ther no a massacre ther.
Wonder what the Torbet and Cairneys say ( get it T&Cs ) on the mortgages.
If Allison cant save his man will they have to get a new guarantor.
Big Des refused before…….something about keeping his money to buy some officials in the mobile phone office in the republic.
Mean while Riley is steadily rewarding himself with shares at half the price.
And just to cap it all negotiations with HMRC on losses carried forward to avoid paying tax.
In Big Peter’s defence he was only thinking of Scottish Football as a whole.
Ity really never entered his head that the titles would end up at the piggery.
There are other clubs in the SPL after all.
Aye Peter as you will soon learn my friend wi the mhanky mob it is tainted love and very short lived when you cross them.
Jeezo Clarkeng pal, that is some diatribe.
I guess you feel let down by the board/chain-gang at Sevco wasting all that money. I mean, £2.5m to Alistair, Charles and Deloittes alone. That is a lot for basically unproductive people.
Get your money out for that new membership scheme. They will be bombarding you with a bond appeal very soon, assuming you want to save this version of the bigoted club.
I really do feel for you but please remember, this is only a blog with mostly partisan comments – the real damage to Rangers has been caused by the people you have in charge in the blue room. Save some of your abusive words for them.
@Clarkeng – LMAO, what a pointless post… Piggery, Mhanky mob, p’dos, you really need to move that type of comment to the cesspits that the other hurting gers fans write in..
Celtic are in their healthiest state that I can ever recall, playing football at the highest level, the biggest clubs in the world coveting our players. Rangers are so close to self destruct #2 you can smell the toxic rot a mile off…
@Clarkeng
Accept Jesus Christ as your saviour today, open your heart & accept him, he loves you Clarkeng, he loves all sinners!
Jesus’s love is unconditional, he knows how we feel!
Today is the first day of the rest of your life Clarkeng!
The Coyote was inching towards the exit door after he refused to splash the cash to stop the Gers one fine transfer window.
The ragers couldn’t handle being thoroughly horsed by a mediocre Gers team that Walter made sure had plenty bottle.Not the Lucozade kind,the kind that doesn’t crash.
The bhoys are having to make do with a tainted kind of success and secretly it vexes them.
Their chucky has still to ar la and it will be messy but fun to watch.
So Spivs in command, Mathers & Stockbridge, meet convicted tax dodger and major crim in S.Africa for a confidential liaison.
However confidentiality was breached so it was decided to throw together some ramshackle, mis-informed, and illegal press releases.
Who breached the confidentiality? The butler? The maid?, or Mathers,? or Stockbridge, or a major crim and convicted tax evader?
My money is on Jack!
Sorry Sevco……But united is the last word I would use to describe this mob!
Happy Eid al Adha and good luck and god bless the Celtic a have my relatives from the east here with me this week great people very clever. And impressive am showing them London all week and chatting soccer food and mass media
Have a great week Michael – don’t worry about the bluenoses up here, we will make sure the torment continues whilst you are busy with your family. See ya pal.
Hail hail ed have a nice week and enjoy the games the night a will be taken in the Dutch match come on the turkey
And the circus trundles on !!!!!!!!!!!
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one thing you do have @ipokes shit and more shit
cam i’m afraid that you are a d-ck hed